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Henry Fall:
Hey guys, welcome back to Milo Lines’ YouTube. Milo, Henry. Today, we’re going to be talking another sort of sport, Frisbee.
Milo Lines:
Yeah.
Henry Fall:
And some of the motions we see, similar to the golf swing.
Henry Fall:
Right, Milo, so when it comes to Frisbee, most of us kind of use our dominant hand, right?
Milo Lines:
I don’t, I throw lefty.
Henry Fall:
Oh, you do? Okay.
Milo Lines:
I do.
Henry Fall:
Well, for me, see, I kind of like to throw righty. If I’m playing disc golf, which is a popular sport now, and we see these guys…
Milo Lines:
They can hook it.
Henry Fall:
They chuck this thing like 300 yards, and do a [crosstalk 00:00:41].
Milo Lines:
I can throw it this way right-handed, but I can’t throw it backhand.
Henry Fall:
Okay.
Milo Lines:
So, it’s weird. I can sling a Frisbee or like a right-handed thrower, but if I’m going to throw it for accuracy, or playing catch with somebody, I always throw left.
Henry Fall:
Okay. So, perfect comparison for the golf swing. Do you see any similarities there?
Milo Lines:
For sure. For me, it’s almost exactly my golf swing. It’s just on a level plane, instead of down here most of the time. So, some of the similarities is the change of direction, so I’m stepping as my arm goes back. Once my foot lands, my body starts to open up, and my arm kind of gets pinned, and then it slingshots off. Pretty similar.
Henry Fall:
So, the sequence…
Milo Lines:
The sequence of motion’s almost identical, and the loading and unloading are almost identical. The only difference is, in a golf swing, I got two hands on this thing, and in a Frisbee throw, I’ve got one. So this arm actually will sling off and go around like this. So in a golf swing, that would be over there.
Henry Fall:
So now, if you can do a little back swing for us, why don’t we point you this way a little bit.
Milo Lines:
Okay.
Henry Fall:
If you make your backswing motion, not what they call it in Frisbee or disc golf, but yeah, make that motion again. So if you stop right here, what about your left arm though? Why do we have a bend here, do we want that?
Milo Lines:
Yeah, powerful. It’s an extra lever.
Henry Fall:
See, I don’t know about you, but there’s times we’ve been told, “Keep your left arm straight.” But as we’ve pointed out before, it’s kind of a fallacy, isn’t it?
Milo Lines:
Yeah. A lot of the best golfers don’t really have a straight left arm.
Henry Fall:
Right.
Milo Lines:
There are a few that do, like Rory’s is pretty straight, but I would say that the majority don’t.
Henry Fall:
Yeah. Because you see some people, some students trying to almost hyper extend this.
Milo Lines:
Oh, they’re trying so hard to keep this thing stiff.
Henry Fall:
Yeah.
Milo Lines:
That’s the word stiff. It doesn’t work very good when they stiffen it up.
Henry Fall:
So by having it a little more supple, there’s almost like a little more flow to it.
Milo Lines:
Yeah. It turns it into more of like a whip, so I can slingshot it.
Henry Fall:
Yeah. Now what about, let’s move down the arm here. What about, sort of, the wrist and hand motions?
Milo Lines:
The wrist? Well, the wrist in the Frisbee throw goes from flexion to extension. That’s fairly similar to what happens in a golf swing as well. So, this wrist is extended, and then it’s flexed. That’s a pattern we see a lot in golfers, there’s a lot of ways to release a golf club. Some guys release it more this way, but a lot of players throughout history went this way with it.
Henry Fall:
So I’m seeing maybe a little supination in that motion, but it’s definitely not like a rollover.
Milo Lines:
No, it’s not a… if I rolled it with the Frisbee, it wouldn’t fly parallel to the ground.
Henry Fall:
Right.
Milo Lines:
So, I want that thing to fly fairly close to parallel to the ground.
Henry Fall:
So kind of like the golf swing. When I make this motion, that can sort of bring about a hook, or too much of a draw motion?
Milo Lines:
The face can really be shutting down, so we might go left.
Henry Fall:
Interesting, okay. So you’re telling me that the sequencing of the body motion, and even the wrist motion is very similar. Even the grip is pretty close, huh? To a certain extent? I mean, are you gripping it way in your palm?
Milo Lines:
Well, I’m holding in my fingers, but it would be more of a weak grip.
Henry Fall:
Yeah. So this would be more, let’s say, in line with like a Jordan Spieth, or maybe a Ben Hogan.
Milo Lines:
Yeah. Well, Hogan’s grip was probably more neutral, Spieth’s is pretty darn weak. Morikawa’s is pretty weak, [Herron’s 00:04:24] is pretty weak. So kind of like what they’re doing.
Henry Fall:
So they would almost take this and be like, “Ah, this is like my golf swing.”
Milo Lines:
Pretty similar. And Spieth’s left handed, so it’s probably pretty easy for him.
Henry Fall:
Yeah.
Milo Lines:
So, yeah.
Henry Fall:
But the key here, when you look at these guys throwing the disc really long, disc golfers, they’re not just using their arm to throw it.
Milo Lines:
No, that’s like a pitcher throwing a baseball. It’s pretty much everything and the kitchen sink involved in it, right? When you’re really going to throw one…
Henry Fall:
They’re almost like Happy Gilmore too, they even kind of stepped into it sometimes.
Milo Lines:
Oh yeah, if I was going to throw this as hard as I could, I would go like this. Like a crossover. So like, this would cross behind, and boom.
Henry Fall:
So now, could I almost take that feeling, of throwing this Frisbee, where my arm kind of slings off, I got the wrist and the body feeling. Could I go in and hit a shot with just my left hand?
Milo Lines:
Sure.
Henry Fall:
I mean, it’d be pretty hard. But even that one, I felt like I tipped it out a little bit, so I almost have to go slower to do it.
Milo Lines:
You’re going to have to go slow at first, but you can hit one-handed shots fairly well lefty. John Daly does it very well.
Henry Fall:
That one, I felt like my body went ahead sooner.
Milo Lines:
Yep. So that was more the right sequence, so your body got out. The step happened earlier.
Henry Fall:
How about I add a step to it?
Milo Lines:
That’d probably be pretty good. There you go.
Henry Fall:
That’s pretty tough to hit at all, though.
Milo Lines:
Yeah, you hit it on the toe, but you did pretty good.
Henry Fall:
The only problem I have with that, is I feel like something about doing it with my non-dominant hand, it makes it really, really challenging. I probably wouldn’t do that one that often, I would stick more, if I was to do one-handed once, to the trail arm. Because that’s something, I mean, for me, that’s my dominant one, but Jordan Spieth, his left hand’s dominant.
Milo Lines:
But you might find that your coordination improves the more you do it. Because John Daly, he hits a lot of lefty chips and pitches.
Henry Fall:
He does.
Milo Lines:
And he’s not lefty.
Henry Fall:
Yup.
Milo Lines:
And so, it can pretty beneficial, he’s got some dang good hands too.
Henry Fall:
It can be good for, yeah, some chipping and pitching too. If you were to release it a little sooner, that can be good around the greens, but the long swing, that’s challenging to kind of hold it off. But, it can be a good practice, I suppose.
Milo Lines:
For sure.
Henry Fall:
Before you go, let’s bring the Frisbee to the golf course, I guess.
Milo Lines:
Yeah.
Henry Fall:
We’ll have to go play disc golf sometime.
Milo Lines:
Nailed Dina.
Henry Fall:
All right guys, thanks for watching, we’ll see you next time. Make sure you subscribe, leave a comment below with what you guys think of our disc golf game. See ya.
