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PGA TOUR Backswing Analysis Of Matthew Wolff, Adam Scott, And Rickie Fowler

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Milo Lines:
Hey, everybody. Welcome back out to Superstition Mountain. It’s a beautiful summery day and we’re answering some questions we’ve had from subscribers to the channel and from our website. And one of those was about different backswing positions and how that affects what happens. I believe.

Henry Fall:
Yeah. How they transition from those positions and the differences we see?

Milo Lines:
Okay. So what are the positions we see? Well, let’s just make them kind of broad.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
So the first one would be kind of cross the line. Second one would be kind of neutral on plane. And the third one would be kind of laid off.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
So what happens from each of those things? So if a player gets the golf club back and the club is across the line like this, where is the center of mass located? The center of mass for this golf club head?

Henry Fall:
Well, it’s out.

Milo Lines:
It’s on that side of my hands, right?

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
So as I change directions and my body, the pivot motion starts to put a torque on this club. What does that tend to do to the club? See how that worked?

Henry Fall:
Yeah, I guess your center of mass is moving back behind you.

Milo Lines:
The center of mass wants to pitch back, right?

Henry Fall:
Because there’s no way if it stayed out in front of you, you’d ever hit the ball.

Milo Lines:
It’s not going to do that.

Henry Fall:
You definitely wouldn’t hit it well.

Milo Lines:
When I change directions, this thing’s going to produce like a whirlybird.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
It’s going to do that.

Henry Fall:
So that’s more of that tip the bat sensation.

Milo Lines:
And so that would be like a baseball player who’s got the barrel up. When they change directions, the barrel kicks back like this and goes into the ball.

Henry Fall:
Matt Wolff is a good example.

Milo Lines:
He would be like the most extreme one in current golf, right?

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
Really, this way. Now, one thing that always applies to the guys who are up and across like that, they have big turns because they need time.

Henry Fall:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Milo Lines:
If that club head’s got to go from here all the way around like this, if I did it with a short back swing like this, I would never have enough time, right?

Henry Fall:
Right.

Milo Lines:
So that’s the one thing you have to watch out for. If you like the feel of being up and across like this, you better make a nice big turn to give yourself plenty of time to unwind it.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
Okay?

Henry Fall:
Let’s talk about the second one. The more on plane. I guess good examples would be sort of Tiger, Adam Scott.

Milo Lines:
Yeah, so it’s like your picture perfect golf swing. Tiger from like most of his career, but really from like ’99 to 2002 was like pretty mint. Adam Scott. There’s quite a few guys who get that club kind of where it looks like it’s planed out perfectly and it doesn’t really shift planes all that much.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
And what’s happening with those guys is they get it up here, the center of mass is behind their hands already, but the direction that my pivot’s going to put torque on the golf club doesn’t make it do much, so it just kind of comes back down.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
Okay? So they’re still using their pivot or even if they’re driving with their arms, the direction that the arms are traveling make the club stay in the same arc.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
They’re not going to see a lot of shallowing. They don’t need it.

Henry Fall:
Right.

Milo Lines:
So it’s going to be pretty much back and through.

Henry Fall:
And I would say the lead wrist in their swings looks pretty flat at that point. Would you agree with that?

Milo Lines:
Generally, depending on their grip. There are guys who have strong grips who are-

Henry Fall:
Maybe a little cup.

Milo Lines:
A little cupped and pretty neutral to neutral. The real thing is it’s how they use the weight of the golf club. They’re basically using it up the plane, down the plane. There’s not a lot of shifting in the plane.

Henry Fall:
Right.

Milo Lines:
And then there’s the third variety. So that would be like your Ricky Fowler. He’d be a really good example of somebody who kind of swings it back here and it’s laid off. Now, where’s that center of mass?

Henry Fall:
It’s way back behind it.

Milo Lines:
It’s back here behind my hands.

Henry Fall:
And it’s lower.

Milo Lines:
Yeah. And so when my body starts to put this torque on the golf club, the club starts to move in this way. It actually starts to stand up. There are guys like Sergio has a little bit of that.

Henry Fall:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Milo Lines:
But he just drops the whole unit together and then tumbles it out. But at some point that thing’s got to tumble out.

Henry Fall:
Yep.

Milo Lines:
And generally, you’re going to see it start to tumble out sooner. And guys who do that usually have shorter swings. Like your John Rahm, your Ricky Fowler. Ricky has a big turn, but a short arm swing.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
Like that. So I’ll see if I can hit them with all three.

Henry Fall:
Oh boy.

Milo Lines:
Well, I’m going to try to give an example of each.

Henry Fall:
The Wolf one will be probably pretty easy for you because you’ve played a lot of baseball. The laid off one, I’m guessing you’ll have the most trouble with.

Milo Lines:
We’ll see if I can do it. Okay. So here we go. First one, the big cross the line. First swing of the day. That hurt. [inaudible 00:05:19].

Milo Lines:
Now, my best Tiger. I’m not very good at getting it right on plane. That would be.

Henry Fall:
I liked that one.

Milo Lines:
Yeah?

Henry Fall:
Well that was a stinger.

Milo Lines:
Yeah. On purpose. I bladed it. I don’t want to mess up this pretty grass. Now, the hardest one for me is getting that thing kind of laid off with a little bit of flat left wrist or bow like those guys do.

Milo Lines:
What do you know? I hit that one the best.

Henry Fall:
That was a tricky one. Well, I guess I was wrong. I mean, we talked about some of the differences and the wrist conditions, where the center of mass is on the clubs. What about some of the similarities? Is the transition still sort of ignited with what’s going on in the lower body and the core?

Milo Lines:
Yeah, so the similarities are how the actual body moves.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
So you see all the guys, no matter where the club is, you’re going to see the motion start from the middle, so the core. You’re going to see the pelvis start to open up, which is going to start to pull everything around.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
For most players. There are guys who sequence it slightly different, but most of your best players are going to sequence it in that way.

Henry Fall:
Yeah.

Milo Lines:
So for me, the real key is not where the club is. It’s how you transition. So if you transition correctly, the club’s going to plane itself out where it needs to be.

Henry Fall:
Yeah. It’s always amazing. When you look at that club at the delivery position, from where they had it, most of the time it matches [crosstalk 00:06:59]

Milo Lines:
When they get it here, it’s going to be somewhere either in line with their hands or just slightly inside of their hands for almost every single player.

Henry Fall:
The club was here, here, or way over there.

Milo Lines:
It didn’t matter where it started, it’s going to get to right there like that.

Henry Fall:
Yep. And that’s why the pros are so good. Because from here to here, it’s magic.

Milo Lines:
What really matters is your delivery, right? From here to here, if we’re really good, you’re going to be really good.

Henry Fall:
Well, yeah. Great. From those different positions, they’re still similar transitions in what their body’s doing and they match it up great for what they’re working with.

Milo Lines:
Yep.

Henry Fall:
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