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Fix Your REVERSE PIVOT And Turn With Side Bend In The Backswing

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Milo Lines:
All right. Welcome back guys. Milo Lines. Henry Fall. We’re out here at Superstition Mountain talking today about reverse pivot. What is it? And what’s going on there? We got to talk about this, right?

Henry Fall:
Yeah. So, first off reverse pivot is basically the pressure is moving into your feet, the wrong direction. So, on the backswing you’re moving pressure kind of into your front foot and then the downswing you’re moving pressure into the back foot. And what that looks like is generally you’re going to see your upper body kind of bending to the left and the lower body really not making a whole lot of turn. And when that happens, you can see my pelvis kind of wanders out from under me to the right. And so, that’s what I would say. Generally it’s because you didn’t really turn, but you bent left but you didn’t really turn very good.

Milo Lines:
Yeah. So, I would say the biggest difference and I’ve always been sort of a left poster, would call it where kind of you can kind of turn off your right side or turn center. I’ve always kind of turned more center left. And as a kid, I was always told I had a reverse pivot and I needed to move more into the right side. In that time period who was number one player in the world?

Henry Fall:
Tiger.

Milo Lines:
Tiger. And they were talking about getting into the trial side. So, anyways for me I would get in this position right here and everyone was like, dude you got to reverse pivot. You got to fix that. Well it’s really not because I’ve rotated, I’ve created extension in my spine. If I was to just do sort of this left tilt that would be, I would consider more reverse pivot. But because I turned, now it matches up. Now I’m just posting up on my center sort of left side.

Henry Fall:
Yeah, if you actually were on force plates you’d see that force-

Milo Lines:
I would still have weight going in my trail foot.

Henry Fall:
Yeah, you’d have force going into your trail foot. You might not get to the 90 to a 100 percent like a lot of the long drive guys do, but you’re definitely getting more. There’s going to be more force under your trail foot than your lead foot.

Milo Lines:
Right. So, if I did it down the line here for these guys, if I just did a left side bend you guys can’t even really see my back. I mean it’s still facing away but if I turn now, now you’re starting to see my upper spine. And to me, that’s not early extension. I mean sorry, reverse pivot.

Henry Fall:
Yeah, exactly. So for me, the definition of reverse pivot has to do with more how the force is working into the ground and it happens because of you’re tilting and not turning.

Milo Lines:
Yeah. Because we get a lot of students that do this where they kind of bump that right hip out.

Henry Fall:
Their right hips go out.

Milo Lines:
They go like that. Right. And they’re just not making that turn part of that swing-

Henry Fall:
But if they got this turn to happen with that same bend, it would be okay. So, it’s okay to get bent as long as we get turned, it’s actually advisable.

Milo Lines:
Right. So, for those that maybe get a little this way, what might be a good exercise they could do?

Henry Fall:
Well we did one with the ball the other day where we put our rear end against the ball and you practice turning and making the ball roll down the wall. That’d be a really good exercise. Other good exercises would be, you’ve seen other golf instructors with chairs, put a chair up against their leg and practice making sure that you turn and create a little bit of window here.

Milo Lines:
Yeah, that’s a good one.

Henry Fall:
So, I actually really like it when people have a little pressure shift, as long as they convert the pressure into rotation, that’s optimum. That’s the best.

Milo Lines:
Right. I mean one I do all the time is just this simple like hug drill, right? And if I was to just do this, well all I did was make this alignment stick go straight up and down really as opposed to making that turn. So, I have left side bend, but it’s also turned, so.

Henry Fall:
Yeah. And you and I both are fairly centered because I get a lot of comments on the channel. Are you stack and tilt? I’m like, well there are some differences and a lot of similarities. But the real key is I’m getting the force into my trail foot and I’m turning and bending to the left.

Milo Lines:
Right. And just because you have extension in this upper spine and your head’s more centered or your head even goes maybe [crosstalk 00:04:33]

Henry Fall:
My head goes slightly left. My head go slightly left and then my head, it kind of goes backward slightly on my downswing.

Milo Lines:
Yeah.

Henry Fall:
A lot of ways to do it.

Milo Lines:
Oh cool. Well at least we can sort of look at it and define kind of what a reverse pivot is, as opposed to maybe those that have thought for a long time, they got in this position they’re like, oh, I’m reverse pivoting, when really probably aren’t.

Henry Fall:
Most likely not. If you turned you probably didn’t reverse pivot.

Milo Lines:
Yeah.

Henry Fall:
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