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Henry Fall:
All right. Back out here at Superstition Mountain, Milo Lines, Henry Fall. Today, we’re going to talk about a few different takeaways we’ve seen throughout the history of golf, the handle drag, the early hinge, and then the one-piece takeaway. Many of you have probably heard of these takeaways before.
Milo Lines:
Sure. So Henry, let’s get into what each of these are and just some famous players that demonstrate each of the varieties. Your first one you mentioned was the handle drag. When you say handle drag, what do you mean by the handle drag takeaway? You mean, the handle is moving a little bit ahead of the head.
Henry Fall:
Yep.
Milo Lines:
Okay. Who would be some people who show that?
Henry Fall:
Well, to me, I would say Ben Hogan or Jason Dufner, for sure.
Milo Lines:
Yeah.
Henry Fall:
And it’s funny because [inaudible 00:00:53] handle drag, but in a way it’s almost a handle push because that’s the first thing moving.
Milo Lines:
What’s actually creating that? Is it a push or is it a pivot of the body that’s dragging that?
Henry Fall:
Right. That’s a good question. When you look at Hogan, especially, the first thing that’s really going isn’t necessarily his hands and arms, it’s actually his body starting to pivot first.
Milo Lines:
In almost everybody, we’ve got gears. Nowadays, you can measure this. Every single tour player who is really good that I’ve looked at, as they move the club off the ball, whether they be the handle drag type or the one-piece or the hands, their chest is moving faster than their left arm is. So they’re not moving this across their chest early.
Henry Fall:
It’s starting in here first.
Milo Lines:
For all of them, it doesn’t matter which one of these methods they’re using. For all of them, it’s starting from in here.
Henry Fall:
Okay.
Milo Lines:
Okay.
Henry Fall:
Who comes to mind for one-piece takeaway?
Milo Lines:
Well, the old school Jack Nicholas. He seemed like kept it in one-piece and just moved it away.
Henry Fall:
When we say one-piece, that’s kind of like if I have this Y right here, the Y’s kind of moving together.
Milo Lines:
The whole Y moves as one big unit. He doesn’t really get any hinge in his wrists early. His wrists really didn’t start setting until the club was above shaft parallel.
Henry Fall:
Yeah. I also think of like a young Tiger. He was very wide.
Milo Lines:
Young Tiger was definitely that model.
Henry Fall:
Yeah. And then the last one would be sort of a early set or an early-hinge, putting that trail wrist that we talk about so often into extension. Who were some guys that maybe come to mind?
Milo Lines:
In today’s game, I’d say Dustin Johnson. His first move is the handle actually goes kind of up and forward and he hinges his wrist. He starts setting this angle, but then if you actually look at it, see his arm goes away from his body and then his body turns. No matter which one it is, the body’s turning so the energy is coming from here, not from the hand, no matter which one of these it is.
Henry Fall:
I would say another one, maybe Mac O’Grady for your Mac O’Grady enthusiasts out there.
Milo Lines:
Oh, yeah. Mac was an earlier hinger. I’m a little earlier hinger.
Henry Fall:
Yep.
Milo Lines:
Naturally, I’m kind of handsy. For me, it feels good. But again, I go back and I look at the movement patterns and it still starts from here, even though my hands are starting to hinge pretty fast.
Henry Fall:
Okay. You’re telling us that there’s that pivot that sort of everything is starting from the core, even in takeaway where it may look like or appear like it’s more hands and arms.
Milo Lines:
For almost everybody, if we put some forest plates under their feet, you’d see a little spike under the front foot and then a wind up of the body. Whether the player is what we coined a dragger, they started like this or a one-piece takeaway guy or a little bit of a hands early takeaway, none of them throw it out of the top. The energy does not go into the golf club from the hands first. We don’t get the center of mass of that golf club tumbling out over the top of our hands. I don’t care who they are or what they said they felt they did, they didn’t do that.
Henry Fall:
Just because Hogan and Dufner start like this, doesn’t mean they’re going to return like that.
Milo Lines:
Well, they better not. If they did, they wouldn’t be Hogan or Dufner.
Henry Fall:
Yeah.
Milo Lines:
The energy came from their middle and moved out into the golf club. That’s how they were able to be dynamic because otherwise it wouldn’t have been dynamic.
Henry Fall:
Right. So I guess the key we’re trying to communicate here too, is that whether you takeaway whatever way you take it away, it doesn’t necessarily matter. It’s really in transition, you’re seeing the similar movements from these top players.
Milo Lines:
The best players, they have great flow in their sequence.
Henry Fall:
Yeah.
Milo Lines:
And everything moves from inside out.
Henry Fall:
So if at home you’re feeling like, man, I like this feel of kind of getting the club moving off the ball first, the grip end, because that kind of creates that flow that you so often speak of and I’m really driving this takeaway with my pivot, that can maybe be a good feeling for you and maybe it lines up with what your swing ought to be.
Milo Lines:
For players who tend to be casters, sometimes I’ll have them do that just to get the feeling of having some softness and not throwing that out at the top.
Henry Fall:
It’s kind of like that?
Milo Lines:
Yeah, for sure.
Henry Fall:
Now, whereas you and I are a little bit more setting it a little bit earlier and once it’s set or we’re actually increasing that set, then we still pivot the same way, but it’s not maybe set as late as that other.
Milo Lines:
Maybe not as late or as deep. The guys who are wider and set it like that, sometimes they can even get a deeper set. Long drivers tend to be on that end of things. I tend to be more of a golfer than a long driver. My goal is to hit it straight.
Henry Fall:
Yep.
Milo Lines:
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Henry Fall:
Those are a few takeaways for you to experiment with home. Find out which one works best for you, and then be sure to check out MiloLinesgolf.com if we can help you any bit more and check these other videos out as well. See you guys.
